Immunity Is The Only Way Through A Pandemic (w/Dr. Monica Gandhi)


We talk about the bungled messaging around vaccines, masks, and natural immunity, why vaccines decrease actual viral transmission, why the US got hit so hard with Delta & why shame backfires in public health, why masks and lockdowns can’t end a pandemic, natural immunity & why a single dose of vaccine should be our recommendation, the correct thinking on “booster” vaccines, the distinction between antibodies levels & B and T memory cells in durable immune responses to coronavirus, why Dr. Gandhi’s stance of vaccine mandates and immunity passports has evolved, the high rate of vaccine uptake among doctors, why death is not always the enemy (RIP Frodo), schools and equity (public vs. private), therapeutics like ivermectin, monoclonals, fluvoxamine, and more, turning the pandemic endemic like cold & flu, what’s up with Mu variant, and more!

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Monica Gandhi MD, MPH is Professor of Medicine and Associate Division Chief (Clinical Operations/ Education) of the Division of HIV, Infectious Diseases, and Global Medicine at UCSF/ San Francisco General Hospital. She also serves as the Director of the UCSF Center for AIDS Research (CFAR) and the Medical director of the HIV Clinic at SFGH (“Ward 86”). Dr. Gandhi completed her M.D. at Harvard Medical School and then came to UCSF in 1996 for residency training in Internal Medicine. After her residency, Dr. Gandhi completed a fellowship in Infectious Diseases and a postdoctoral fellowship at the Center for AIDS Prevention Studies, both at UCSF. She also obtained a Masters in Public Health from Berkeley in 2001 with a focus on Epidemiology and Biostatistics.